## Monday, March 05, 2012

### How big is the Decorah Bald eagle nest?

Our moderators are often asked about the size and weight of the nest. The short (and very rough) answer? The nest is roughly 5 feet high by 6 feet wide at the bowl, and weighs about 1367 pounds.
This should give you about the right idea of its size, if not its shape.

So how do you know that?
We haven't measured or weighed the nest, but I can do some rough back-of-the envelope calculations that should come close. We are going to pretend that the nest is a neat cone shape, if only because it is closer to cone-shaped than to anything else. This photograph of Bob lying down in the nest was taken two or three years ago.

Bob is around six feet tall and the nest is a little bigger now than it was then, so I am going to go ahead and estimate it at 6.5 feet in diameter, which gives it a base radius of 3.25. The nest was roughly 4.5 feet high when I was up there in October, but the nest is irregularly shaped and the eagles have been working on it, so I am going to go ahead and estimate it at five feet high. Fortunately, this isn't rocket science! Estimations are acceptable.

The formula for calculating the volume of a cone is (1/3) * pi * radius2 * height. So, (.3333) * 3.1415 * 10.5625 * 5 = 55.3 Or you can just go to an online calculator. I checked my answer at http://www.cleavebooks.co.uk/scol/calcone.htm

Now that we have our volume, we need to think about what the nest is made out of. It is in a cottonwood tree, in a neighborhood with other cottonwood trees, maples, and oaks. We can therefore assume that some of the branches are cottonwood, some are maple, and some are oak. Cottonwood weighs about 28 pounds per cubic foot, oak weighs about 46 pounds per cubic foot, and maple weighs about 46 pounds per cubic foot. Since I can't tell which is which by looking at them, we'll take an average of the three, which equals 40 pounds per cubic foot. 40 * 55 yields an estimated weight of 2212 pounds, or a little over one ton.

Earlier today, I gave 2212 pounds as the final weight. Wrong! It was pointed out to me that the nest is not a cone of solid wood - the branches are woven together and it has spaces, albeit tightly packed ones. I cast around a bit for a way to determine this unmeasurable space and finally decided to use the fibonacci ratio of 61.8%. This number, which is also referred to as the golden ratio, or the golden mean, turns up quite a bit in natural series, especially ones that involve spirals. Don't believe me? Check this out: http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/life/evolution/fibonacci-nature1.htm

Once I factored in fibonacci, my final estimate becomes 1367 pounds. Still a creepy thing to think about when you are dangling 50 feet above the ground on a rope attached to cottonwood limbs above the nest.

How big are Mom and Dad?
We don't know for sure, since we haven't captured and measured them, but we estimate about 8-9 pounds for Dad and 11-12 pounds for Mom. Their wingspan is most likely between 6.5 and 7 feet.

So how do you know that?
Again, we don't know exactly. Bald eagles vary in size. Bald eagles in Florida are much smaller than those in Alaska, probably because being large helps animals retain heat in cold weather (check out Bergmann's rule: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergmann%27s_rule). Iowa has cold winters, so our eagles should be on the larger end of the scale. According to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_Eagle):
• The bald eagle's body length varies from 28-40 inches (70-102 centimeters)
• The bald eagle's wingspan measures between 5.9 and 7.5 feet (1.8 and 2.3 meters)
• The bald eagle weighs between 5.5 and 15 pounds (2.5 and 7 kilograms)
• Females average 13 pounds (5.8 kg) and males average 9 pounds (4.1 kg)
Kay Neumann from SOAR (Save Our Avian Resources) has a lot of experience weighing and measuring bald eagles that come into her rehabilitation center. Although these eagles are often sick or injured, and so may be a little lighter than a healthier eagle, she said:

"Males are weighing in the 8 to 9 pound range, and females are in the ten and eleven pound range. I’ve heard the Raptor Center (Amy's note: the Raptor Center at the University of MN) say from 8 to 12 pounds, and that seems about right for our Iowa birds too. The record holder is a 14 pound female, but she may have been a Canadian bird. So there is quite a bit of a range – just like people, eagles come in different sizes.
It is a bit deceiving in that they look as big as a turkey – 20 pound birds. Turkeys are designed to wander around on the ground and look for seeds while eagles are designed to fly and so built quite differently. An eagle has hollow bones and feathers for strong but light construction - just like a plane."

How big are the eggs?
The eagle eggs are oval, white, and roughly the size of a tennis ball. The Center for Conservation Biology at the College of William and Mary has a wonderful post on this:
Bald eagle eggs weigh about 4.2 - 4.5 ounces (120-130 grams) and range from 2.3 to 3.14 inches (6-8 centimeters). They are 1.96 to 2.3 inches (5-6 centimeters) wide. They are hard-shelled. Everyone knows that eggs can't get too cold, but they also can't get too hot. Cam watchers have noticed the eagles seeming to spend a little more time off the eggs this year. This may be in response to the (relatively) warm winter. For more about the eggs, check out this blog: http://raptorresource.blogspot.com/2012/02/we-have-first-decorah-eagle-egg-of-2012.html

How big an animal can a bald eagle kill? For instance, can a bald eagle kill a deer? How much weight of prey can a bald eagle carry to the nest?
We don't know the biggest animal that a bald eagle can kill, although I have some prey weight estimates based on animals we have seen them carry up to the nest. Golden and Harpy eagles kill large prey, including deer, but I have not been able to find a reliable report of a bald eagle killing an adult deer. In general, a Bald eagle won't kill you and carry you away if you weigh over about 4 pounds.

The internet gives a lot of interesting answers when about bald eagles and prey weight. I think the Carolina Raptor Center gives the best answer: they can lift half of their weight and carry 1/3 of their weight. Based on these estimates:
• Mom can lift about 5.75 pounds and carry about 3.8 pounds
These estimates are in line with the prey we have seen brought into the nest, which has included:
• Fish. The Decorah bald eagles seem to prefer fish to everything else, which means that the majority of their prey is probably around 1 -2 pounds. No muskies, but a lot of trout and sometimes suckers.
• Muskrats. Wikipedia tells me that adults weigh from 1.5 to 4 pounds
• Wild rabbits. Weight reports really vary, but estimates tend to start around 3-4 pounds for adults. The young are considerably lighter.
• Gray squirrels. Again, estimates vary but in general adults weigh .8 to a little over 1 pound.
• Various birds. Again, I don't know how much they weigh exactly, but the average would be under a pound.
Having said that, I don't think I will ever forget this capture, taken in 2009. One of the adults (probably Mom) brought in the head of a dead fawn (young deer). A newly born fawn might be just inside the range of an eagle's carrying capacity (3 to 5 pounds), but we think the deer was most likely road kill, especially given how deteriorated its body appears to be.

Click here for a look at the area around the eagles nest.

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Winona Musgrove said...

thanks so much for the good info.

deckercn said...

Wonderful information! Please post this on the site so reference can be made for folks to "Scroll down"!

tcam52 said...

Your weight estimate for the nest is based on the weight of wood found in the area. Is that weight for solid wood? I'm sure it's nearly impossible to estimate the amount of void areas in the nest, but I have to think the weight would be somewhat less than the 2000 lbs. you estimated.

artistic matter said...

Hi there. I have been watching a pair of eagles in Lufkin TX raise their chicks (yes they're already hatched and nearly ready to fly). I'm looking for some information so that I can ID the male and female. The only information I had was that the female is usually larger. I have some video on youtube under the name "blueallison." Can you please contact me at artistic.matter@yahoo.com? I also have a question regarding prey; although our eagles are near a lake, I have yet to see them bring fish to the chicks. In fact, one night dad (or the one I think is dad) brought home a bullfrog, which mom wasn't happy about and in fact, threw out! I'd appreciate any help you can offer.

cee said...

I hope many chatterers read this so they don't keep repeating the same questions over and over.

cee said...

I hope many chatterers read this so they don't keep repeating the same questions over and over.

Pat said...

Bonnie said...

When I first saw the picture showing the size of the nest, I was so amazed. Thanks for all the info.

DotK said...

I like to think of the Decorah Eagle nest as about the same size and weight as an upside down Volkswagen Beetle.

Margaret said...

My Daisy girl scouts are learning a bit about bald eagles and Bob's choice of recliner will be a perfect addition to the conversation! Thank you!!!

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